Comments on: Its that time of the year… http://www.tuxmaniac.com/blog/2007/10/14/its-that-time-of-the-year/ Genious people speak less but blog more -- Aanjhan Mon, 01 Dec 2008 17:59:21 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.2 by: jef http://www.tuxmaniac.com/blog/2007/10/14/its-that-time-of-the-year/#comment-37702 Mon, 29 Oct 2007 09:53:33 +0000 http://www.tuxmaniac.com/blog/2007/10/14/its-that-time-of-the-year/#comment-37702 Confirmed. Ubuntu STILL does the dirty deed. http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20071029#review "As we've come to expect from Ubuntu, support for non-GPL drivers is well integrated into the the system, to the point that it automatically enabled the MadWiFi driver for my wireless card without my approval." Don't you see how this is bad both from the legal as well as moral perspective or do you support Ubuntu in what they are doing here? Confirmed. Ubuntu STILL does the dirty deed.

http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20071029#review

“As we’ve come to expect from Ubuntu, support for non-GPL drivers is well integrated into the the system, to the point that it automatically enabled the MadWiFi driver for my wireless card without my approval.”

Don’t you see how this is bad both from the legal as well as moral perspective or do you support Ubuntu in what they are doing here?

]]> by: jef http://www.tuxmaniac.com/blog/2007/10/14/its-that-time-of-the-year/#comment-37141 Sat, 20 Oct 2007 20:08:55 +0000 http://www.tuxmaniac.com/blog/2007/10/14/its-that-time-of-the-year/#comment-37141 "No.I run my own self-compiled kernel also for most needs. What I gave you was information" Of course but it still does not tell me whether Ubuntu continues to automatically install proprietary software or not in some instances. "I get your point and we are working towards attaining that complete free system. We are almost there." The best way to get there is to refuse to install proprietary software by default and only install such software if the user wants to do so in ALL instances. Discretely installing proprietary software in a distribution is a bad mistake that Ubuntu has been doing and it is not clear yet whether they have stopped doing so even in the latest release. Unfortunately that important point has been lost in between all the marketing. “No.I run my own self-compiled kernel also for most needs. What I gave you was information”

Of course but it still does not tell me whether Ubuntu continues to automatically install proprietary software or not in some instances.

“I get your point and we are working towards attaining that complete free system. We are almost there.”

The best way to get there is to refuse to install proprietary software by default and only install such software if the user wants to do so in ALL instances. Discretely installing proprietary software in a distribution is a bad mistake that Ubuntu has been doing and it is not clear yet whether they have stopped doing so even in the latest release.

Unfortunately that important point has been lost in between all the marketing.

]]> by: Aanjhan http://www.tuxmaniac.com/blog/2007/10/14/its-that-time-of-the-year/#comment-37129 Sat, 20 Oct 2007 13:55:31 +0000 http://www.tuxmaniac.com/blog/2007/10/14/its-that-time-of-the-year/#comment-37129 Jef, No.I run my own self-compiled kernel also for most needs. What I gave you was information. I get your point and we are working towards attaining that complete free system. We are almost there. Jef,

No.I run my own self-compiled kernel also for most needs. What I gave you was information. I get your point and we are working towards attaining that complete free system. We are almost there.

]]> by: jef http://www.tuxmaniac.com/blog/2007/10/14/its-that-time-of-the-year/#comment-37050 Fri, 19 Oct 2007 02:24:50 +0000 http://www.tuxmaniac.com/blog/2007/10/14/its-that-time-of-the-year/#comment-37050 Not for all proprietary drivers though. Some of them get installed automatically and without warning. I wanted to know if that still happens. Looks like you aren't even aware that it does that. That seems to be the common case among Ubuntu users due to false marketing. Not for all proprietary drivers though. Some of them get installed automatically and without warning. I wanted to know if that still happens. Looks like you aren’t even aware that it does that. That seems to be the common case among Ubuntu users due to false marketing.

]]> by: Aanjhan http://www.tuxmaniac.com/blog/2007/10/14/its-that-time-of-the-year/#comment-36983 Wed, 17 Oct 2007 14:51:47 +0000 http://www.tuxmaniac.com/blog/2007/10/14/its-that-time-of-the-year/#comment-36983 Yeah. It does display a warning dialog atleast for my Wireless card. It also includes a "Restricted Drivers Manager" for managing all such non free drivers. Yeah. It does display a warning dialog atleast for my Wireless card. It also includes a “Restricted Drivers Manager” for managing all such non free drivers.

]]> by: jef http://www.tuxmaniac.com/blog/2007/10/14/its-that-time-of-the-year/#comment-36956 Wed, 17 Oct 2007 02:41:48 +0000 http://www.tuxmaniac.com/blog/2007/10/14/its-that-time-of-the-year/#comment-36956 "No. Theere is a pop up asking you whether you want to install specific “Restricted” drivers for some hardware." That is only for some hardware. For others like wireless, Ubuntu atleast till the last version used to install proprietary drivers silently. I just wanted to know if that is still the case. Can you check and confirm that has changed in this version atleast? "To be sure of 100 % freedom, one can try gnewsense or may be gobuntu." That completely misses the point. If I want 100% freedom, a Ubuntu variant is very unlikely to be a good choice anyway. “No. Theere is a pop up asking you whether you want to install specific “Restricted” drivers for some hardware.”

That is only for some hardware. For others like wireless, Ubuntu atleast till the last version used to install proprietary drivers silently. I just wanted to know if that is still the case. Can you check and confirm that has changed in this version atleast?

“To be sure of 100 % freedom, one can try gnewsense or may be gobuntu.”

That completely misses the point. If I want 100% freedom, a Ubuntu variant is very unlikely to be a good choice anyway.

]]> by: Aanjhan http://www.tuxmaniac.com/blog/2007/10/14/its-that-time-of-the-year/#comment-36924 Tue, 16 Oct 2007 15:20:27 +0000 http://www.tuxmaniac.com/blog/2007/10/14/its-that-time-of-the-year/#comment-36924 @Jef, No. Theere is a pop up asking you whether you want to install specific "Restricted" drivers for some hardware. If you chose no, then it doesnt. To be sure of 100 % freedom, one can try gnewsense or may be gobuntu. @Jef,

No. Theere is a pop up asking you whether you want to install specific “Restricted” drivers for some hardware. If you chose no, then it doesnt. To be sure of 100 % freedom, one can try gnewsense or may be gobuntu.

]]> by: jef http://www.tuxmaniac.com/blog/2007/10/14/its-that-time-of-the-year/#comment-36888 Mon, 15 Oct 2007 18:28:27 +0000 http://www.tuxmaniac.com/blog/2007/10/14/its-that-time-of-the-year/#comment-36888 Does it still install proprietary drivers by default without informing the user? Does it still install proprietary drivers by default without informing the user?

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